Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby admin2 on 03 Apr 2008, 17:04

LupusREBEL wrote:Nije na poligonu Slunj već vojni poligon pokraj Slunja, to je poligon koji je JNA koristila za pješaćku obuku, sve zgrade na poligonu su obnovili domobrani, ima dvije trpezarije i jedno 18-20 zgrada, heliodrom i sanitet s saniteskim smještajom od 10-20 bolesnika, poligon nazivaju prema nahođenima: Korana, Dobri Dol ili Krnjak.

Sad se tamo obučavaju pripadnici HV-a i ini pripadnici za mirovine operacije.
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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby admin2 on 03 Apr 2008, 17:06

admin wrote:Vjerujem da se ovdje radi o poklopcu kabine ovoga Mig-a 21 bis 17130 :wink:
Ovo sam snimio 1999.god. u dvorištu jedne kuće na potezu Karlovac-Josipdol.
Iz kratkoga razgovora sa domaćinima (nisam htio dosađivati) sam dobio tada informaciju da se radi o ratnom trofeju sa kraja 1991.
S obzirom da se po spisku uništenih aviona exJNA u ratnim operacijama za ovo područje se spominju 3 Mig-a 21:
http://www.yuairwar.com/gubici3.asp
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Za 17130 se ne navodi ime i sudbina pilota što daje vjerodostojnost tvrdnji na ovome linku da se pilot spasio:
http://www.mzndr.net/eksponati/21.html

...onda mislim da je ovo upravo poklopac kabine sa 17130 zbog lokacije koja nije daleko od Saborskog.

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Jesu li srušeni 17130 borbeno djelovao ili ne na Saborsko se da iščitati iz ovoga transkripta sa suđenja Slobodanu Miloševiću:
http://www.un.org/icty/transe54/021016ED.htm
Q(uestion)-pita=Slobodan Milošević
A(nswer)-odgovara=Zaštićeni svjedok C-1220
...a namjerno ili ne saznajemo i ime oborenog pilota jer spomenuti Janjić po spisku nije pilotirao u ostala 2 koja se spominju na spisku 17109 i 17212. :wink:

8 Q. You mentioned, if I understood you correctly, that the air force

9 started this attack on Saborsko. Did you see the air force attack

10 Saborsko, bomb Saborsko, shoot?

11 A. Yes. Yes, missiles.

12 Q. In this statement that you gave to the MUP in Karlovac and which

13 is attached to your statement, you say two or three times Saborsko was

14 flown over by two Mig 21s.

15 A. Yes.

16 Q. Then you did not say that they bombed them. You say that they

17 flew over.

18 A. I don't know. I mean, maybe I thought that they flew over a few

19 times, and they also shot missiles. That's what I meant to say.

20 Q. All right. Flew over. Precisely in this statement that you gave

21 to the police, on the 8th of November, 1999, you did not mention anywhere

22 that the aircraft bombed Saborsko; is that right?

23 A. I think -- well, that's what I meant.

24 Q. Oh, that's what you meant. All right. Is it correct that members

25 of the ZNG shot one aeroplane and took the pilot prisoner? His name was

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1 Janjic. Do you remember that?

2 A. You mean over there?

3 Q. I mean in that area, yes.

4 A. I don't know about this area. I don't know. I don't know, but

5 maybe perhaps in the area beyond maybe.


Milošević (a bio je lukav svakako :wink:) naravno cijelu stvar prikazuje kao obrambenu akciju exJNA postrojenja u Hrvatskoj.
...posljedica te "obrane" je sudbina Saborskog:
http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokolj_u_S ... enoga_1991.
http://gospic.hbk.hr/content/view/731/2/
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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby admin2 on 03 Apr 2008, 17:06

relay station wrote:znaci onda je to bio kIkl janjić?skrivanjem imena mislili su i zataskat taj gubitak svoj
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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby admin2 on 18 Jun 2008, 12:01

admin wrote:Taj mig 17130 se vidi u ovome TVB videu iz 90/91...ovo je galerija 124.lae u smjeru ulaza 3:
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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby admin2 on 18 Jun 2008, 12:01

relay station wrote:nije turanj vec vukovar no dali je ovaj 17156 bio na zelji?
http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spa0432ff5.jpg
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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby SuperJura on 21 Jul 2008, 16:09

Ovdje je i službena stranica zbirke sa Turnja

http://www.mzndr.net
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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby FirewireHR on 27 Dec 2009, 11:50

Par fotki od jučer...novopostavljeni migonja dominira nad ostalim eksponatima.
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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby FirewireHR on 27 Dec 2009, 11:54

Tu je isto i novopostavljeni T-55.
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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby FirewireHR on 27 Dec 2009, 11:57

Bivši stanovnik Željave 17130...
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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby FirewireHR on 27 Dec 2009, 12:03

...i još koja novopostavljenog mig-a.
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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby FirewireHR on 27 Dec 2009, 12:04

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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby MiGac on 01 Jan 2010, 17:22

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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby Let_lampa on 01 Jan 2010, 22:42

admin2 wrote:
relay station wrote:znaci onda je to bio kIkl janjić?skrivanjem imena mislili su i zataskat taj gubitak svoj


Konsultovao komšiju i kaže da u to doba na Željavi nije bilo nikakvog pilota po imenu Janjić.
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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby Let_lampa on 01 Jan 2010, 23:17

Let_lampa wrote:
admin2 wrote:
relay station wrote:znaci onda je to bio kIkl janjić?skrivanjem imena mislili su i zataskat taj gubitak svoj


Konsultovao komšiju i kaže da u to doba na Željavi nije bilo nikakvog pilota po imenu Janjić.


Ovaj lijevo na slici je ujesen '91 spašen negdje pored slunjskog poligona ali nema veze sa imenom Janjić. Neće komšija da kaže ime, samo se smješka i spominje nekakvog bosanskog talijana...

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Re: Zbirka naoružanja Domovinskog rata - Turanj, Karlovac

Postby relay station on 01 Jan 2010, 23:26

nema ko drugi bit nego
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