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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby FirewireHR on 14 Aug 2008, 12:22

Firewall wrote:Ova zadnja dva videa su već maknuli...cenzura na djelu. :banghead

Ipak nije ;) , to BBC poslovnica "YouTube" [luda2] zabranjuje embediranje videa.
Znači može samo link ovako:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z4j4UcnzQE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40DVcYxyNy8
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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby LupusREBEL on 14 Aug 2008, 21:01

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Crnim točkama su označena mjesta ruskih vojnih djelovanja u Gruziji
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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby LupusREBEL on 14 Aug 2008, 21:22

Oslobodili su zemlju od povampirenih... :confused0007
Ne to se dešavalo u RH, pardon... :a015
Oslobodili su Gruziju od Gruzijaca... :confused0006
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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby FirewireHR on 15 Aug 2008, 14:51

Kako rekoh Gruzijska vojska je doživjela strašan poraz. :(
Pronašao forum sa jednom serijom dramatično-brutalnih :nonnon slika koje je napravio jedan novinar.
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Zanimljivo je da je taj novinar išao sa specijalom jednicom-bataljonom "Vostok" koji sačinjavaju proruski orjentirani Čečeni-muslimani. :a015
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Fotke možete vidjeti na tom forumu koji je malo-malo nedostupan...biće zbog velikog prometa ovih dana(?)
...kako rekoh fotke su dosta brutalne i jednostavno me čudi da su Gruzijci tako gadno rastureni:
http://www.navoine.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112
Prijevod foruma na HR--> ovdje

Ovdje pak imate samo fotke u nešto manjoj rezoluciji za one sa sporijom vezom:
http://monolith.irsrv.ru/war/

Ovdjeima jedan tekst sa opisom Čečenskih pro-ruskih sigurnosnih snaga:
http://www.axisglobe.com/article.asp?article=976
+ prijevod na HR:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u ... l=en&tl=hr

Uz regularne jedinice ruske vojske idu i lokalne paramilitarne jednice slične onima kakve smo viđali po Hrvatskoj 1991 koji su haračili uz exJNA jednice.
Mislim da ćemo u idućim mjesecima-godinama još dosta slušati o njihovim (ne)djelima prema Gruziskom stanovništu koje je ustalo unutar zauzetih područja Gruzije. :nonnon
...evo ih na djelu:
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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby FirewireHR on 15 Aug 2008, 15:02

Također je zanimljivo da su pripadnici bataljona "Vostok" u biti amnestirani čečenski borci koji su se borili protiv samih Rusa-federalne vojske u obje kampanje rata u Čečeniji: :confused0007
Majority of the staff members and the heads of the Chechen security forces consists of the amnestied separatists. A significant part of them took part in the warfare against the federal forces not only in the first, but also in the second Chechen campaign. The GRU battalion Vostok, the interior troops' battalions of the Russian Interior Ministry – Youg and Sever – , the Special-task police regiment (PMON) named after Akhmat Kadyrov, the Oil Regiment – all these almost completely consist of the separatists amnestied after the renewal of warfare in the republic in autumn 1999.
Vostok battalion is standing out against the general background of the units, as its personnel did not participate in the second campaign on the side of the separatists.
Interior Minister of the CHR, the commanders of the battalions Youg, Sever, Vostok, and also those of the OMON, PMON, and the Oil Regiment - all are the amnestied separatists. All of them, except for the commander of the Vostok battalion, Sulim Yamadayev, had participated in the warfare against the federal forces during the second campaign. Against the general background, the commanders and the personnel of the battalion Zapad are standing out too, as well as the majority of the OMON servicemen. In both cases these people are the convinced patriots of Russia and had participated on the side of the federal forces in both, the first and the second, campaigns.
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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby FirewireHR on 16 Aug 2008, 00:43

Vidim novinari su omiljena meta tamo: [oops]
...oba slučaja su u kategoriji "za dlaku"

Novinarka Gruzijske TV:


Turski novinari:
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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby Riker on 16 Aug 2008, 17:21

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080816/ap_ ... sh_georgia

CRAWFORD, Texas - President Bush sent a stern warning to Russia on Saturday that it cannot lay claim to two regions in U.S.-backed Georgia even though their sympathies lie with Moscow. "There is no room for debate on this matter," the president said.
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Searching for signs of progress, Bush told reporters at his Texas ranch that Russian President Dmitry Medvedev's signing Saturday of a cease-fire plan was an important development — "a hopeful step."

"Now, Russia needs to honor that agreement and withdraw its forces and, of course, military operations" from Georgia, a small former Soviet state on Russia's southwest border.
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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby FirewireHR on 18 Aug 2008, 11:58

Zarobljena tehnika Gruzijske vojske: :shock:


Po podacima ispada ovako:
65 tanks (20 were destroyed later as old/broken)
5 anti-aircraft systems "Osa"
15 BMP-2s
D-30 howitzers
Czeh howitzers
American APCs

764 M-16s
28 MGs M-40
754 AKs
Izvor:
http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&s ... vT8GyJp8Fg

Zarobljeni Gruzijski vojnici:


Ruski vojnici u osvojenoj vojarni Gruzijske vojske:

...zanimljivi su njihovi bijesni, zavidni komentari na standard koji su imali ovdje Gruzijci. :roll:

Operacije čišćenja trgovina u Goriju od strane ruskih vojnika:
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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby FirewireHR on 18 Aug 2008, 12:12

Čečeni iz spomenutog bataljona "Vostok" zbrajaju ratni plijen:
http://www.vesti.ru/videos?vid=144346&d ... 201122&p=9

Imate masu materijala u vezi svega ovoga na Militaryphotos forumu:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... 8&page=636
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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby JoZ@ on 18 Aug 2008, 13:18

Firewall wrote:Stvarno su Rusi u banani ako su zavidni Gruzijcima.


zavidna vojska vojsci

pa jebemu ni kod nas nije ni u jednoj vojarni isti standard

a ko zna iz koje su oni vukojebine dosli i u koju su vojarnu upali (ak se radi o vojarni)
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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby FirewireHR on 18 Aug 2008, 13:38

Izgleda da su Gruzijci dosta uložili novaca zadnjih ne znam koliko godina u nabavu nove opreme (od uniformi do oružja)...prvenstveno "Made in USA".
Nisam ništa znao o tome, ali kada pogledaš neke snimke o njhovoj vojsci;
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... &aq=-1&oq=
...na trenutke razmišljaš jesu to amerikanci ili što.
Uz to vjerovatno ide i određeni standard po vojarnama koji sada iritira Ruse s obzirom da oni očito obitavaju u spartanskim uvjetima.
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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby FirewireHR on 26 Aug 2008, 02:33

...nakon svega
Kako su se Ruski mirotvorci obranili i uzvratili udarac genocidnim Gruzijcima :a015
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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby relay station on 26 Aug 2008, 11:59

FirewireHR wrote:Izgleda da su Gruzijci dosta uložili novaca zadnjih ne znam koliko godina u nabavu nove opreme (od uniformi do oružja)...prvenstveno "Made in USA".
Nisam ništa znao o tome, ali kada pogledaš neke snimke o njhovoj vojsci;
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... &aq=-1&oq=
...na trenutke razmišljaš jesu to amerikanci ili što.
Uz to vjerovatno ide i određeni standard po vojarnama koji sada iritira Ruse s obzirom da oni očito obitavaju u spartanskim uvjetima.
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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby treb on 02 Sep 2008, 21:40

Kakva je veza između ostalog Gruzije i Srbije (osim odmetnutih pokrajina) i tko koga postavlja na vlast:


http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=4685
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Re: Rat u Gruziji

Postby treb on 02 Sep 2008, 21:50

Ovoga puta iz usta Engdahla, pisca "Stoljeće rata". Žestoka knjiga.

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