Izjava za zainteresiranu javnost na hrvatskom jeziku-->OVDJE
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Related to the article on newsportal Le Matin by mr.Patrick Vallélian pubbished on 20.01.2009.
Dear mr. Vallélian,
(I will speak as a forum administrator)
Although I don't speak French (infact i need lots of time for english also) and you didn't give me the link, I managed to on-line translate your article from yesterday and am quite surprised by the statements presented in it.
First of all let me just say that ALL the info gathered in the forums of our site is dedicated to, once biggest European underground airbase, Zeljava... destroyed in 1992 by Yugoslay Federal Army located on Croatian-Bosnian border upon JNA's retreat from the airbase.
Site and forum also cover foreign similar military installations, but all the information presented is gathered from many different public sources exclusively found on the internet.
Additionally, most of the info regarding Swiss military installations is taken from Swiss army's publicly available publications found on the internet and available for free d-load.
Swiss side (since they already presented such attitude for this matter) can use this materials to reveal how they handle their sensitive information. So to mention our site in negative context is to say at least not fair.
As I said all that was collected from publicly available sources by our forum members who don't find it hard to browse internet for hours to find those information (they are passionate fans of those thematics, being their major hobby). So how are we responsible to gather, read and understand all those documents(?)
Schematic related material is abstract view on certain themes based on similar facilities around the world, also publicly available even for visitors (e.g. Save airport in Sweden).
Forum is open for everyone and it's members are the fans of the IT, aviation, aviation technology and abandoned places (like decommissioned military sites)... so we write mostly about those.
The intent of our site is by no means to reveal military secrets of any side, including Swiss, or cause any harm to any of the mentioned parties. In fact, none of us have ever been to Switzerland.
Therefore as a token of good will from our side we have taken off-line everything that covers installations similar to Zeljava.
If Swiss Defense Dept really thinks this info should not be made public, we will gladly permanently DELETE everything they think is unfit for public display. After all, it's Zeljava we tend to find out all about and not Swiss or any other country's installations.
Again, let me say that all of this info is made publicly available on the internet from different sources including official.
Just check enormous amount of the Swiss AirForce aviation photos and videos provided by official or non-official sources (forums, websites etc.) from your and other countries.
If it is true that Swiss DD wants this info taken down, all they have to do is contact us.
Since you found me (and I respond to you quickly), that obviously isn't impossible, so I expect them to do the same.
Our forum members find this situation at least not fair and don't understand why the name of the forum and the site is presented in such a bad manner and especially don't like the part connecting us or our country to any terrorist activity. I'm pretty sure you can use the internet and inform yourself about the recent history of our country and what it fought and finally won the war for.
(LYBI-forum team... admin/moderators/members)
The part of your article about terrorists I didn't completely understand from the on-line translation, but I don't like it because of all before-mentioned reasons.
Why didn't you point your finger at Swiss Army's officials, publications and Swiss military forums for revealing all this info in the first place??? Instead you find us to blame for their mistakes?
Why does Swiss Air-Force let people take pictures on classified military installations?
Same thing goes for radar stations and other installations in Alps.
I personally wasn't even aware of Swiss military's complexity and superior equippment used until I had a glimpse at all this.
To most people (me included) Swiss public image is connected around the world of finance, watches and chocolate.
Now it's the same, but in this order military, finance, watches and chocolate.
Here is a small part of the web links where you can find endless materials on Swiss Army and thank for to all those wonderful people who made these beautiful photos which is used on our site:
(many, many things frome here abaut military technology)
IZJAVA ZA HRVATSKU JAVNOST POVODOM ZANIMANJA MEDIJA ZA NAŠU WEB STRANICU I FORUM
Tragom želje za spoznajom članovi našega foruma su proučavali i slične vojne instalacije širom svijeta na osnovu dostupnog sadržaja sa interneta kako bi što bolje razumjeli princip gradnje i rada takvih pogona.
S obzirom na članak gospodina Patrick Valléliana od 20.01.2009. u švicarskom listu "Le Matin" ispada da smo otkrili razne vojne tajne(?), štoviše da je napisana "biblija obrane švicarske vojske" i cijela stvar je dobila prizvuk skandala u CH medijima.
Postupak novinara posebno nas pogađa jer nas je kontaktirao putem e-maila i velikodušno mu je ponuđena pomoć po pitanju bilo čega što ga zanima, a ima veze sa www.zeljava-lybi.com.
U svakom slučaju nakon ovih svih neugodnih saznanja iz Švicarske u znak dobre volje prema švicarskoj strani svi takvi sadržaji su u potpunosti izbrisani sa foruma jer nitko ne želi biti predmetom ikakve istrage bez obzira kako nekoga neka tema zanimala.
Najlijepši pozdrav svima!