Izjava za zainteresiranu javnost na hrvatskom jeziku-->OVDJE

Public announcement for all visitors of this web page!
Related to the article on newsportal Le Matin by mr.Patrick Vallélian pubbished on 20.01.2009.

http://www.lematin.ch/actu/suisse/secrets-suisses-devoiles-72566


Dear mr. Vallélian,
(I will speak as a forum administrator)

Although I don't speak French (infact i need lots of time for english also) and you didn't give me the link, I managed to on-line translate your article from yesterday and am quite surprised by the statements presented in it.
http://tinyurl.com/83g9d7

First of all let me just say that ALL the info gathered in the forums of our site is dedicated to, once biggest European underground airbase, Zeljava... destroyed in 1992 by Yugoslay Federal Army located on Croatian-Bosnian border upon JNA's retreat from the airbase.
Site and forum also cover foreign similar military installations, but all the information presented is gathered from many different public sources exclusively found on the internet.
Additionally, most of the info regarding Swiss military installations is taken from Swiss army's publicly available publications found on the internet and available for free d-load.

Swiss side (since they already presented such attitude for this matter) can use this materials to reveal how they handle their sensitive information. So to mention our site in negative context is to say at least not fair.
As I said all that was collected from publicly available sources by our forum members who don't find it hard to browse internet for hours to find those information (they are passionate fans of those thematics, being their major hobby). So how are we responsible to gather, read and understand all those documents(?)
Schematic related material is abstract view on certain themes based on similar facilities around the world, also publicly available even for visitors (e.g. Save airport in Sweden).
Forum is open for everyone and it's members are the fans of the IT, aviation, aviation technology and abandoned places (like decommissioned military sites)... so we write mostly about those.

The intent of our site is by no means to reveal military secrets of any side, including Swiss, or cause any harm to any of the mentioned parties. In fact, none of us have ever been to Switzerland.
Therefore as a token of good will from our side we have taken off-line everything that covers installations similar to Zeljava.

If Swiss Defense Dept really thinks this info should not be made public, we will gladly permanently DELETE everything they think is unfit for public display. After all, it's Zeljava we tend to find out all about and not Swiss or any other country's installations.
Again, let me say that all of this info is made publicly available on the internet from different sources including official.
Just check enormous amount of the Swiss AirForce aviation photos and videos provided by official or non-official sources (forums, websites etc.) from your and other countries.

If it is true that Swiss DD wants this info taken down, all they have to do is contact us.
Since you found me (and I respond to you quickly), that obviously isn't impossible, so I expect them to do the same.

Our forum members find this situation at least not fair and don't understand why the name of the forum and the site is presented in such a bad manner and especially don't like the part connecting us or our country to any terrorist activity. I'm pretty sure you can use the internet and inform yourself about the recent history of our country and what it fought and finally won the war for.

Best regards,...
(LYBI-forum team... admin/moderators/members)

P.S.
The part of your article about terrorists I didn't completely understand from the on-line translation, but I don't like it because of all before-mentioned reasons.
Why didn't you point your finger at Swiss Army's officials, publications and Swiss military forums for revealing all this info in the first place??? Instead you find us to blame for their mistakes?
Why does Swiss Air-Force let people take pictures on classified military installations?
Same thing goes for radar stations and other installations in Alps.

P.S.S.
I personally wasn't even aware of Swiss military's complexity and superior equippment used until I had a glimpse at all this.
To most people (me included) Swiss public image is connected around the world of finance, watches and chocolate.
Now it's the same, but in this order military, finance, watches and chocolate.

P.S.S.S.
Here is a small part of the web links where you can find endless materials on Swiss Army and thank for to all those wonderful people who made these beautiful photos which is used on our site:

http://glique.ch/Dok2005/BernerOberland.pdf
http://www.lw.admin.ch/

(many, many things frome here abaut military technology)
http://www.vtg.admin.ch/internet/vtg/de/home/dokumentation/publik_zeitrschr/armeeaktuell.html

http://www.og-einsiedeln.ch/
http://www.swisstopogeodata.ch/geodatenviewer/client.php
http://map.search.ch/meiringen
http://www.lw.admin.ch/internet/luftwaffe/de/home/verbaende/einsatz_lw/flpl_kdo_mei/bilder0/bilder.html
http://www.volucris-aviation.eu/
http://www.fotofokus.ch/

Searchable photo services:
http://www.flickr.com/photos
http://picasaweb.google.com
http://www.webshots.com/
...and many more others

http://www.targeta.co.uk/meiringen_2005.htm
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/449a3/a875b/
http://www.architekturfotografie.ch/de/projekte/flugplatz-meiringen-2006-20.html
http://www.peters-ada.de/syst-flarak.htm
http://www.aviapoint.ch/index.php?article_id=89
http://www.gme-airfoto.de/specials/2008/meiringen/index.html
http://italy-mil-aviation.forumfree.net/?t=33043287
http://flir-forum.actifforum.com/air-force-base-meiringen-lsmm-f5/
http://flir-forum.actifforum.com/photos-meetings-spotter-day-f9/axalp-2008-t1280.htm
http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&p=35026
http://www.austrianaviation.net/index.php?id=49
http://www.italianvipers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=5889&sid=0fe4ad0f1f43546dd0749e3f3b539d47
http://www.italianvipers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=5773&sid=0fe4ad0f1f43546dd0749e3f3b539d47
http://www.italianvipers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=5771&sid=0fe4ad0f1f43546dd0749e3f3b539d47
http://lsmm.chapso.de/index-s267953.html
http://www.aviapic.ch/forum/viewforum.php?f=40
http://www.aviapic.ch/forum/viewforum.php?f=44
http://www.aviapic.ch/forum/viewforum.php?f=14
http://www.nyfeler-mueller.ch/parsenn/parsenn.htm
http://picasaweb.google.hr/lh/view?ndsp=18&um=1&hl=hr&q=meiringen%20rafale&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iq#
http://www.scramble.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=46052&start=0
http://cencio4.wordpress.com/2006/10/
http://flickr.com/photos/maiolodaniele/sets/72157607910812503/?page=9
http://www.miniatur-wunderland.de/community/forum/unbewegte-flugzeugeflugzeugmuseumflugzeug-kaverne-t9320.html
http://jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?location=Turtmann%20Air%20Base%20-%20LSMJ
http://www.vs.ch/Public/doc_detail.asp?ndocumentid=13545&sLangID=fr&sCodeID=QA&nColor=10&ServiceID=324
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?placesearch=Turtmann%20(LSMJ)%20(closed)&distinct_entry=true
http://www.airfighters.com/photosearch.php?loc=3546
http://www.planepictures.net/netsearch4.cgi?srch=LSMM%20Meiringen,%20Switzerland&stype=location&srng=2
http://www.pictaero.com/en/airports/airport,ch,lsmm
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?placesearch=Meiringen%20(LSMM)&distinct_entry=true
http://www.lerx.net/Arbre/Photo/Galleries/Photo/2008/Eurofighter_Meiringen_271108/html/Eurofighter_meiringen_271108.html
http://www.lerx.net/Arbre/Photo/Galleries/Photo/Axalp_2005_part_2/HTML/Axalp_2005_part_II.html
http://niederrhein.we-ict.nl/axalp2005/me2005.html
http://picasaweb.google.hr/lh/view?ndsp=18&um=1&hl=hr&q=axalp%2Bmeiringen&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iq#
http://www.flplabt3.ch/wk2003/index.html
http://www.geocities.com/mirage3rs/
http://www.airpic.ch/v157a/index.php/2003-visitmenu-38/316-black-a-white
http://picasaweb.google.hr/lh/view?q=mount+pilatus&psc=G&filter=1&hl=hr#
http://picasaweb.google.hr/lh/view?q=mt+pilatus&psc=G&filter=1&hl=hr#
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=mt%20pilatus&w=all&s=int
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=mount+pilatus&s=int
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pilatus-radar.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=scopi&m=text
http://www.flickr.com/photos/xaray/2841704835/sizes/l/
http://www.hikr.org/files/46013.jpg
http://www.bleuer.com/pictures/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1942&g2_serialNumber=2
http://www.rosaindebergen.nl/bo/wildstrubelhuetten/slides/wildstrubelhuetten2008_0829_212158(1).JPG
http://www.hikr.org/files/46020.jpg
http://www.daviddilling.com/fotogalleries/Lenk_Switzerland_Hiking_2007/Lenk_Simmenfalle_Wildstrubel_Iffigenalp/images/DSC_0313Hiking_wilds%2320206.jpg
http://www.daviddilling.com/fotogalleries/Lenk_Switzerland_Hiking_2007/Lenk_Simmenfalle_Wildstrubel_Iffigenalp/images/DSC_0314Hiking_wilds%2320207.jpg
http://www.freeskiing.cz/galerie/131/Image/SNOWfest08/PR%20-%20SCOTT%20Czech%20Ride/svah_view_VYREZ_male.jpg
http://www.freeskiing.cz/galerie/131/Image/SNOWfest08/PR%20-%20SCOTT%20Czech%20Ride/lanovka_gipfel.jpg
http://home.ggaweb.ch/radarcd/
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2942670/1-Titelseite-Vorwort-Inhaltsverzeichnis
http://www.cdvandt.org/Bedeutung%20der%20Frequenz-%20&%20Zeitmessung%20bei%20der%20Flugwaffe%20modi%20def%20V6.pdf
http://flickr.com/photos/carlofachini/354890980/
http://flickr.com/photos/40826712@N00/2717263350/in/photostream/
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/6710655.jpg
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2571118910101733805FDkVFG
http://www.altepostkarten.ch/ak%20luzern/01/img_det/Pilatus_detail.jpg
http://www.altepostkarten.ch/ak%20ob-nidwalden/01/img_det/Pilatus_Kulm___31213_detail.jpg
http://www.wendy5nz.com/images/USA/DSC01089.JPG
http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/5846336.jpg
http://fliss.ch/Gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=406&g2_serialNumber=1
http://fliss.ch/Gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2306&g2_serialNumber=2
http://fliss.ch/Gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2315&g2_serialNumber=2
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http://fliss.ch/Gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=2313&g2_serialNumber=2
http://k43.pbase.com/u38/christianswiss/large/31970902.33626_pbzPilatuscheminpitonnierquimneauTomlishorn2132m7000ft.jpg
http://www.paulpeltz.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=32967&g2_serialNumber=2
http://www.liorchen.com/gallery/data/543/IMG_7521.JPG
http://www.dontibbits.com/europe/switzerland/mtpilatus/images/D3374_Mt_Pilatus_Luzerne.jpg
http://www.dontibbits.com/europe/switzerland/mtpilatus/images/D3375_Mt_Pilatus_Luzerne.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Pilatus-radar.jpg
http://picasaweb.google.hr/lahotyrajeev/LuzernMtPilatus#5244870789702017026
http://picasaweb.google.hr/lahotyrajeev/LuzernMtPilatus#5244870807313902706
http://picasaweb.google.hr/lahotyrajeev/LuzernMtPilatus#5244870823993465042
http://picasaweb.google.hr/leo.k.cheng/Switzerland#5107389378018370322
http://picasaweb.google.com/sary357/LuzernSwitzerland#5222826184657773666
http://www.ar.admin.ch/internet/armasuisse/de/home/dok/publi/Bildkalender.parsys.0003.PhotogalleryDownloadFile4.tmp/dezember.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/22557094@N04/2981744319/sizes/l/
http://flickr.com/photos/frank-buettner/2985123930/sizes/o/
http://flickr.com/photos/tomewatson/2921740584/sizes/l/
http://flickr.com/photos/bru-web/2902062224/sizes/l/
http://flickr.com/photos/collideous/2814924510/sizes/l/
http://flickr.com/photos/ciukes/2756020481/sizes/l/
http://flickr.com/photos/ciukes/2756020161/sizes/l/in/set-72157606688302641/
http://community.webshots.com/photo/fullsize/1100978565047366486TQJvUJ
http://community.webshots.com/photo/fullsize/1354421775067290224pLkxHl
http://flickr.com/photos/happythermia/2507963420/sizes/l/
http://community.webshots.com/photo/fullsize/1354421956067290224rKHxOW
http://www.carto.net/neumann/mountaineering/2008/pilatus_2008_07_18-19/39_morning_moon_with_old_weather_and_radar_station.html
http://flickr.com/photos/extraface/2566757733/sizes/l/
http://www.hikr.org/files/52574.jpg
http://www.hikr.org/files/52576l.jpg
http://www.hikr.org/files/52568l.jpg
http://www.hikr.org/files/55475.jpg
http://www.hikr.org/files/55472.jpg
http://www.hikr.org/files/52829.jpg
http://www.hikr.org/files/52821l.jpg
http://www.hikr.org/files/20048.jpg
http://www.hikr.org/files/20043.jpg
http://www.hikr.org/files/20044.jpg
http://picasaweb.google.hr/smurugan2/20071229Pilatus#5150942448548115906
http://picasaweb.google.hr/smurugan2/20071229Pilatus#5150942023346353282
http://picasaweb.google.hr/partha2005/Pilatus#5102728565562221074
http://picasaweb.google.hr/anoop911/SwissAlbum#5207586374843830482
http://picasaweb.google.hr/xue.f.yang/SwitzerlandUetlibergPilatus#5212195066944210962
http://picasaweb.google.hr/sankar.prasad/2007y06m17dSwitzerlandMountRigi#5079689158871620946
http://picasaweb.google.hr/kiran.alampally/SwissTourPilatus#5052157696887195938
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/14351833.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/8926106.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/3827621.jpg
ww.lerx.net/Arbre/Photo/Galleries/Photo/2007/Meiringen_23_240307/HTML/Meiringen_23_240307.html#Gallerie
http://flickr.com/photos/tambako/888002657/sizes/l/ Pilatus
http://flickr.com/photos/tk_five_0/2310296841/sizes/l/
http://www.og-einsiedeln.ch/galerie/anlaesse/axalp08pe/photos/08.10.08%20020.jpg
http://www.og-einsiedeln.ch/galerie/anlaesse/axalp08pe/photos/08.10.08%20030.jpg
http://www.og-einsiedeln.ch/galerie/anlaesse/axalp08pe/photos/08.10.08%20031.jpg
http://www.og-einsiedeln.ch/galerie/anlaesse/axalp08pe/photos/08.10.08%20032.jpg
http://www.og-einsiedeln.ch/galerie/anlaesse/axalp08pe/photos/08.10.08%20033.jpg
http://www.og-einsiedeln.ch/galerie/anlaesse/axalp08pe/photos/08.10.08%20034.jpg
http://www.og-einsiedeln.ch/galerie/anlaesse/axalp08pe/photos/08.10.08%20035.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/_codemonkey_/2856060842/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/_codemonkey_/2856055886/sizes/l/in/set-72157607274089691/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/_codemonkey_/2855269347/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomk-ch/2371758958/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/_codemonkey_/2856055886/in/set-72157607274089691/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomk-ch/2371758840/sizes/o/in/set-72157604302438977/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lecra/1247014755/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/beat/6439332/
http://community.webshots.com/photo/fullsize/2899655650011540204tTHBsO
http://www.takeadventure.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_page=7
http://www.ciklocentar.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=0fkreil7fndqus1jhaeje0t9n6&board=7.0
http://www.fotofokus.ch/Gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=7358&g2_serialNumber=2
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r57/vixen1000/Meiringen%201-9-08/5.jpg
http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=409&p=9741&hilit=meiringen#p9741
http://media.photobucket.com/image/pilatus/Fingaz_2007/Bibbyineurope08/SDC11141.jpg?o=696
http://flickr.com/photos/collideous/2814924510/sizes/l/
http://flickr.com/photos/happythermia/2507200221/sizes/l/
http://flickr.com/photos/ewahrlich/2676986120/sizes/o/
http://flickr.com/photos/7222695@N06/2933484147/sizes/l/
http://media.photobucket.com/image/pilatus/olgaphilip/Mt%20Pilatus%20and%20Luzern/a312.jpg?o=1931
http://media.photobucket.com/image/pilatus/olgaphilip/Mt%20Pilatus%20and%20Luzern/18aa.jpg?o=1943
http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/6/B/HB6BI..._r_900x626.jpg
http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/m/0/HBm0y..._r_490x700.jpg
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http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/u/t/HBut2..._r_810x700.jpg
http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/0/3/HB03O..._r_900x606.jpg
http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/i/f/HBifo..._r_900x620.jpg
http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/6/o/HB6oI..._r_900x605.jpg
http://www.flyingbrick.nl/tourdesuisseday5.htm
http://flickr.com/photos/neldorling/2848403931/in/photostream/
http://picasaweb.google.hr/vit.baisa/Montenegro#5233229982859439666
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r57/vixen1000/Meiringen%201-9-08/5.jpg
http://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=409&p=9741&hilit=meiringen#p9741
http://media.photobucket.com/image/pilatus/Fingaz_2007/Bibbyineurope08/SDC11141.jpg?o=696
http://www.ambri-airport.ch/gallery/coldwar/hunter1.pdf
http://www.ambri-airport.ch/gallery/coldwar/hunter2.pdf
http://www.ambri-airport.ch/gallery/coldwar/hunter3.pdf
http://www.skyguide.ch/en/_img/buochs_over_1400.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p155/cencio4/Axalp/Axalp_DC_16.jpg http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p155/cencio4/Axalp/Axalp_DC_15.jpg
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p155/cencio4/Axalp/Axalp_DC_20.jpg
http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/84600.jpg
http://images.google.hr/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ueliraz.ch/2007/bratsch/bratsch-11.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ueliraz.ch/2007/erschmatt.htm&h=576&w=768&sz=163&hl=hr&start=96&sig2=EFquFHbhnbaWhO3hZiBVwg&um=1&tbnid=jIw4kyoPta8qvM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=142&ei=SgOjSLyEOY-87QX0_8jRDw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dturtmann%26start%3D90%26ndsp%3D18%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dhr%26sa%3DN
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2710340420011570133RRAhoq
http://www.lba.admin.ch/internet/lba/de/home/verbaende/logbr/mob_log_ber_kp_104/bildergalerie.parsys.25312.1.photo.Photogallery.gif
http://www.sac-winterthur.ch/Touren/2006/20060901_scopi.pdf
http://www.admin.ch/cp/d/1997Sep9.124555.8232@idz.bfi.admin.ch.html
http://flickr.com/photos/viernullvier/423315942/sizes/o
http://www.zizzi.ch/mediac/400_0/media/FalconTarmac1.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregorurech/121333169/in/set-72057594095941607/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregorurech/sets/72057594095941607/
http://www.skipass.com/blogs/clash/lenk-plaine-morte.html
http://www.ar.admin.ch/internet/armasuisse/fr/home/dok/immobilienbotschaft.parsys.0004.downloadList.00041.DownloadFile.tmp/ib2001.pdf
http://www.bazl.admin.ch/themen/lupo/00293/00360/index.html?lang=fr&download=M3wBUQCu/8ulmKDu36WenojQ1NTTjaXZnqWfVp7Yhmfhnapmmc7Zi6rZnqCkkIN0fnZ+bKbXrZ2lhtTN34al3p6YrY7P1oah162apo3X1cjYh2+hoJVn6w==.pdf
http://www.picswiss.ch/10-GR/f-GR-100/GR-103-07.jpg
http://www.picswiss.ch/10-GR/f-GR-100/GR-103-08.jpg
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IZJAVA ZA HRVATSKU JAVNOST POVODOM ZANIMANJA MEDIJA ZA NAŠU WEB STRANICU I FORUM

Poštovani čitatelji naše stranice prije svega Vam želimo skrenuti pažnju da je cijela naša web stranica i forum posvećena isključivo bivšem aerodromu Željava (sa podzemnim dijelom) koji su uništile jedinice bivše JNA 1992 godine pri odlasku sa teritorija Bosne i Hercegovine u početnoj fazi rata na tom prostoru.
Naša namjera je da sakupimo što više materijala (foto/video) i da dočaramo kako je ova stvar izgledala dok je bila u funkciji jer treba prije svega znati da se radilo o najvećem podzemnom aerodromu u Europi.
Također postoji i želja da se tom prostoru da jedna inicijativa u smislu nekakvog novog sadržaja tipa muzej, auto/moto utrke, sportski aerodrom ili bilo što slično od čega bi imali koristi i Hrvatska i susjedna Bosna i Hercegovina kao prijateljske zemlje.
Za HR javnost bi trebalo posebno naglasiti (ako netko nije upoznat) da je tokom teških ratnih dana upravo sa ovog aerodroma pok. pilot Rudolf Perešin izveo svoj legendarni prelet u Klangenfurt, a kasnije i pilot Danijel Borović prema Puli...to smatramo detaljima koji se nebi smjeli nikako zaboraviti.
Sav trud i uloženo vrijeme u sakupljanju prikazanih materijala je isključivo dobra volja ljudi koji su to obavili i cijela "stvar" se bazira na neprofitnoj osnovi što znači da sve financiramo iz vlastitog džepa.

Tragom želje za spoznajom članovi našega foruma su proučavali i slične vojne instalacije širom svijeta na osnovu dostupnog sadržaja sa interneta kako bi što bolje razumjeli princip gradnje i rada takvih pogona.
Pri tome su forumaši dosta detaljno proučili i švicarsku vojsku koja ima dosta takvih objekata.
Materijali o njima su u velikoj količini dostupni na internetu bilo da su u pitanju službene vladine stranice raznih profila, bilo da su u pitanju forumi ili web stranice koji se bave zrakoplovstvom, vojnom tehnikom i slično.
Radi o praktično ogromnom broju slika, dokumenata i sl. stvari za kojim naši članovi foruma nisu štedjeli truda i volje da ih pregledaju i prezentiraju putem foruma na jednom mjestu.
U samom ovom tekstu predstavljen je dio tih linkova (iznad ovoga HR teksta) odakle potječu materijali, a kako možete provjeriti ima ih popriličan broj.

S obzirom na članak gospodina Patrick Valléliana od 20.01.2009. u švicarskom listu "Le Matin" ispada da smo otkrili razne vojne tajne(?), štoviše da je napisana "biblija obrane švicarske vojske" i cijela stvar je dobila prizvuk skandala u CH medijima.
Sami članak možete vidjeti ovdje:
http://www.lematin.ch/actu/suisse/secrets-suisses-devoiles-72566 (francuska verzija)
http://tinyurl.com/83g9d7 (prijevod na engleski)
Također se spominje da su pokrenute razno razne istrage.
Sa tom i ostalim tvrdnjama tamo web stranica www.zeljava-lybi.com i članovi pratećeg foruma su stavljeni u neugodan položaj jer slijedom originalne vijesti i ostali news portali u Švicarskoj prenose stvar u istom negativnom svijetlu.

Postupak novinara posebno nas pogađa jer nas je kontaktirao putem e-maila i velikodušno mu je ponuđena pomoć po pitanju bilo čega što ga zanima, a ima veze sa www.zeljava-lybi.com.
Vrlo jasno mu je na argumentirani način izraženo da nas nije nemoguće kontaktirati i prenešeno mu je nezadovoljstvo takvim načinom pisanja te prenijeta poruka da od nikoga nismo primili nikakvu pritužbu po pitanju bilo čega šte se tiče prezentiranog sadržaja, pa tako ni od njihova ministarstva obrane.
U tom slučaju bi svakako uvažili pritužbu.
Isto tako je naglašeno da je forum otvoren za sve i da su članovi foruma ljubitelji informatičke tehnologije, zrakoplovstva, zrakoplovne tehnike, vojne tematike općenito i napuštenih mjesta (npr. otpisane vojne lokacije i sl.)...i da pišemo uglavnom o tim stvarima.
Nekim forumašima nije problem satima pretraživati internet u želji da pronađu željene materijale koje zatim postave na forum.
Novinar je i sam bio zatečen nekim stvarima koje su mu bile rečene, pa je objavio i drugi tekst kao nastavak originalne vijesti gdje na malo objektivniji način predstavlja cijelu stvar.
Taj drugi tekst možete pogledati ovdje:
http://www.lematin.ch/actu/suisse/ne-informateurs-terroristes-73675 (francuska verzija)
http://tinyurl.com/abgd42 (prijevod na engleski)
Sami novinar pak izgleda ne razumije dobro razliku između web stranice i foruma(?) na što mu je također skrenuta pažnja tokom e-mail konverzacije.

U svakom slučaju nakon ovih svih neugodnih saznanja iz Švicarske u znak dobre volje prema švicarskoj strani svi takvi sadržaji su u potpunosti izbrisani sa foruma jer nitko ne želi biti predmetom ikakve istrage bez obzira kako nekoga neka tema zanimala.
Također niti ne želimo da se naša Domovina Hrvatska zbog nas spominje u negativnom svijetlu jer i takve stvari su se dale iščitavati ovih dana prateći razno-razne komentare na objavljene članke u Švicarskoj.
Švicarska strana bi, pošto ima takve stavove, trebala očito dobro porazmisliti kako spriječiti da takve za njih povjerljive informacije uopće dospiju na internet jer masa tih materijala je fotografirana prilikom turističkih oblizaka tih lokacija(?) ili na raznim aeromitinzima Swiss Air Force-a od strane službenih ili neslužbenih lica.

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